Security of Openvpn

FranklynA

In trying to set up an Openvpn, I note - with ALARM- that the only countries in which I am offered a VPNbook / server is in countries whose laws force companies such as VPN's to harvest the data of users & give it to the NSA.
So my question is: What is the point of using a VPN located in such countries if the laws say that the data must be given to Government spies & criminals ?
Further, I note that I cannot actually find / download a book or server based in countries - such as Switzerland - that do not use laws to spy on people.
Lastly, In trying to set up a Telecomex Openvpn (based in Switzerland), using the NSA virus known as Windows 10, I find that Windows 10 refuse to give me access to Telecomex using all manner of excuses - can't find it, timed out, bad gateway etc. So it's quite obvious to me that the conspiracy between Microsoft & the NSA does not want anyone to obtain a VPN that they don't already have access to or can't yet hack with their Xkeyscore system & Turbulence.

TiTex

you're a bit paranoid

TinCanTech

Paranoid maybe but also quite correct !
Does any body remember lavabit.com ?

GCHQ in the UK are also part of that conspiracy ..

FranklynA

Titex. Imagine I have a very large bowl of mixed fruit. I offer you your choice of fruit - but only the one (1) fruit I choose. Wouldn't that make you suspicious to the point of perceived paranoia ?

TiTex

i don't give much thought to conspiracy theories , i'm a non-beliver 🙂)
but on the other hand i don't live in USA,Russia,China or one of the middle east countries
about microsoft i would say if you don't trust their products , better to not use them although are you sure it's a windows issue and not an ISP blocking your connection or even a firewall ? 🙂
I know at least one linux distro , we will not mention it's name here (*cough ubuntu*) that's not playing nicely with privacy, yet people don't really mind since it's one of the most if not the most used linux distribution on the desktop.

Anyway , i hope you'll find the answers to your questions.

Pippin

Lastly, In trying to set up a Telecomex Openvpn (based in Switzerland), using the NSA virus known as Windows 10, I find that Windows 10 refuse to give me access to Telecomex using all manner of excuses

Without any details about setup we are unable to help... 🙂

FranklynA

Pippin...Thanks for the interest. I had a (I think) hack through Wine & reinstalled my Mint System - without Wine. Got through to Telecomix immediately.

Pippin

So, the cause is unknown...

TinCanTech

Not that this has anything to do with openvpn but ..

TiTex wrotei don't give much thought to conspiracy theories

The CIA and GCHQ along with Microsoft and Intel are not a theoretical conspiracy.

A few well known facts :

In the UK all internet activities are logged !
In the US lavabit.com were forcibly shut down because the owner refused to share the server keys to the US Authorities. He claimed "to share them was a breach of trust". Instead he destroyed all his customer data and shut up shop permanently. There is no US based service which does not share it's customers data with US Authorities.
Microsoft Windows is basically a Virus by any other name ..
Linux does not run Intel chips as well as Windows does because some of the chip functions are secret.

TiTex wrotei'm a non-beliver

Ignorance is bliss :mrgreen:

FranklynA

Hi Pippin...I posted "Linux Mint Hacked" today. Have a read of it. It's kindda intriguing watching someone moving my cursor, knowing you caught them in the act !! My suspicion of what was happening with that caused me to search my system & I found a Win.Exploit in the Mime.cache folder. How it got into Mint I can only guess through Wine (It is, after all, a Windows Emulator). Quite why someone would want to stop me accessing Telecomex is another question. Anyway, the reinstall got rid of all the issues. The Exploit was not present in the reinstall & I got through to Telecomex immediately with & without VPN.

FranklynA

TinCantech...I'm glad to meet someone who has an understanding of the level of threat that the denial of privacy entails. Some people prefer to bury their heads in the sand & hope for the best - but there ain't no best to come from this type of criminality. Instead if we don't strongly object & fight it, it just leads to a natural progression until we are not really people anymore - just totally controlled nonentities.
It's real shit that I gotta search the earth for a safe place from which I can communicate with privacy - as is my absolute right.

TinCanTech

FranklynA wroteIt's real shit that I gotta search the earth for a safe place from which I can communicate with privacy - as is my absolute right

Unfortunately, what you believe is your absolute right many other people strongly disagree with ..

Good job there are people like Ed Snowden around.

The way I see it is .. The internet is the newest addition to this planet and it is as easy to abuse as it is to use.
Unfortunately, we have to surrender certain rights otherwise there could be quite unpleasant consequences.
And .. the Internet is basically privately owned so They say what goes not us ..

What I find to be utterly appalling is how Private Business can afford to lobby Politicians until they get what ever they want (eg. US ISPs now selling private data about all their customers and extending their Monopoly by forcing out competition). In my opinion it is Democracy itself which is under threat .. to the extent that We (The citizens and tax payers) get to vote once every four years while those Private Businesses get to Lobby 365 days a year ..

To be honest .. I think the Lunatics are already in charge of the Asylum .. :shock:

FranklynA

Hi TinCanTech...I had a very similar (not pleasant) conversation with my GF's parents. Basically I told them that Democracy / Socialism / Communism are ideas that work fine on paper - unfortunately the reality is very far distant from the theory. The only democratic thing we seem to have is the choice of whose name we put our x next to to act as our executioner. I got a real mouthful from the old man bout how he fought in the war for democracy etc. When I pointed out all the things he supposedly fought for which are non-existent and asked him if this was truthfully what he fought for / expected.He changed his mind a little. But being an obstinate old goat, he couldn't go all the way & admit the truth.

I hear what you're saying 'bout the Internet & Private Business. I try to do what I can to circumvent adverse circumstances - as far as my knowledge goes.
I console myself with the fact that natural progression will eventually lead to an extremely intelligent creation that will (by design or logical thought) ask the very same questions we ask - Why & why not and the result of that line of reasoning by such a machine may well be very far different from what the creators expected !